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OK people, let's make a deal??!

03:33 PM Feb 13 2008 | 回覆

Moony Wine007

Brazil

Everybody has the right to believe in something or no. It depends of each one!

Be what YOU want to be and RESPECT what I want to be, ok!

Have a nice day!

Forget the rest…

06:24 PM Feb 13 2008 | 回覆

gkisseberth

Colombia

Hi Moony. I can understand your frustration about posts on religion if you don't really like reading about it, but there seem to be lots of other topics and it's really very easy for you to read and reply to those you like and ignore those you don't.

No one is forcing you to read something you don't wish to, but you seem to want everyone to share your opinion. 

Here's another deal. I will RESPECT what you want to be and your right to read what you want if you RESPECT my right to do the same.

How about it?

 Cheers

 

01:05 PM Feb 14 2008 | 回覆

Moony Wine007

Brazil

I agree with you. "Everybody does want to do!" But it is too boring often see posts about Islam, don't you think.

I have nothing against the Muslim people, but other want to make a polemic, a circus, it seems.

03:08 PM Feb 14 2008 | 回覆

nono ksa

nono ksa

Saudi Arabia

 

hi moony!

if you don't want to read them it's okey  don't read

but someone els want to know what  islam talk about  

if we don't reply to them what they ask us  it's not polite way don't you think so ?? Smile 

cheers

06:49 PM Feb 14 2008 | 回覆

MarkChina

MarkChina

United Kingdom

nono ksa – I have asked several questions about Islam on this forum and I don't usually get a polite reply. What I get is "The prophet said it" or "Allah said it" or nothing at all.

I mean, I've studied Islam (I'm not a Muslim) and I find it incredible that this is all most Muslims can say. It is clear that, in Islam, there is a distinct lack of thought.

I agree with MoonyWine007 (interesting name!) but I would like to point out that it is very clearly the Muslims on this forum that have initiated the problem with such comments as "There is only one God", "There is only one true religion" and references to people who are atheist or believe in evolution as "stupid".

Such comments are racist and make Islam look like a racist religion. As such, you cannot possibly be surprised when other people decide that they are not going to put up with racist comments and the suggestion that one group of people is superior to another group.

I personally have asked the Muslims who have made such comments to apologise or withdraw these comments, but they do not. This confirms that many Muslims on this forum are racists. Sad, but true.

05:42 AM Feb 15 2008 | 回覆

yana011

yana011

Philippines

markchina… great again

<<im ur stalker..lol i like ur comments. really.

well said.

right moony…keeping my mouth shut about M peeps 

05:52 AM Feb 15 2008 | 回覆

gkisseberth

Colombia

Good points Mark, but I think you could easily say the same about adherents to most religions in a place like ebaby. People don't come her primarily to speak about religion (though there seem to be exceptions) but to speak about and use English. Therefore we wouldn´t expect a high percentage of religious scholars or even people like yourself who have done at least a little bit of study on the subject. 

I´ve known many Christians who can offer little other than ¨because god said so¨or ït´s in the bible¨when asked about tenets of their religion. I´m not surprised to see the same from Muslims. Maybe it{s a sad state when a non-beleiver knows more about your religion´s history than you do. 

I would still like to respond to the original criticism of too many posts about religion and about Islam in particular by noting that there seems to be easily at least 20 non religious threads for every religious one. (based on a thouroughly unscientific study consisting of my vague impressions and unreliable memory only)

 

10:52 AM Feb 15 2008 | 回覆

numfor

Cameroon

hi moony i respect you that is why i am writting this to let you know that i can also make you reall for life

03:00 AM Mar 01 2008 | 回覆

Kanaobi

United States

gkisseberth:

yes I do understand if they are trying to use their English by talking about the religion, but to note what Mark had said,  most people (I wouldn't say all Muslim people over here and I will say most of them) said "There is only one true religion" and references to people who are atheist or believe in evolution as "stupid" which led to racist. and to be frankly, it's already an eye sore to me.

and I didn't see that many topics of other religions if they're compared to the Moslem's topic. I really think that Ebaby should make a rule about not posting anything dealing with religion topic because not all people are wise enough to use their freedom of speech.

I got several messages dealing with the fact my fiance is serving in the US army and most of the messages said that "they wished all the troops in Iraq are died because US Army and the soldiers are the enemy of Allah"

now, is this attitude reflect what they believe in? if they hate the soldiers or the US army just say that they hate it. dont bring Allah into it.

my grand pa who's an Indonesian is a Muslim but he is way more moderate than these people. 

03:11 AM Mar 01 2008 | 回覆

gkisseberth

Colombia

Kanaobi,  I don't think that wisdom should be a pre-requisite for exercising free speech.

Sometimes we need the "moron perspective" just to show us how right we are ;)

Of course, since ebaby is a private company, they can make any rules they like about what can be posted, and we have the choice to use the service or not, but I don't think it would be a good idea. I can say that if they said tomorrow that posts about religion were prohibited, I would reconsider my membership. 

Please thank your fiance for his service, and wherever he is, I hope that he comes home safely to you. 

 

08:05 PM Mar 01 2008 | 回覆

MarkChina

MarkChina

United Kingdom

I totally agree that adherents of other religions can be equally offensive, but you'll have to point me in the direction of those that do it on English Baby. I just don't see those posts. As Kanaobi says, where is the post or thread saying "Christianity is the one and only true religion"?

"Sometimes we need the "moron perspective" just to show us how right we are". Could not agree more, sir!